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Divide lock and unlock[edit]

Recently, automated lists of "pages which require this item/quality" have been added to all pages. It's a very useful feature - with one caveat:

I would wish to have pages LOCKED by a quality/item separate from pages UNLOCKED by said item/quality.

At the moment, it can be difficult to parse which pages are unlocked and which are locked, as it is noted in plain text in the middle of a large block of text. Take this line for instance:

(RETIRED FATE HALLOWMAS) Gain a Rubbery Campanologist (15 FATE) (Lock), an Action from Let Slivvy Speak, a Storylet in Fallen London.

This line is one of six lines, making the information that this locks that action dissappear in the clutter.

One solution would be to move the notice to the beginning of the line. That way all the lines would be easily detectable as lock or unlock.

However, I think I would still prefer to have it on a separate list. The existence of an unlock can be a relevant piece of information, and for many items, the only items on the lock/unlock-lists deal with acquiring the item. See for instance Monastic Diatomist. It's also counterintuitive to have something that locks something on a list of things that thing unlocks.

Not a terrible problem by a long shot, but this has annoyed me several times, so I figure I ought to at least mention it... - Eliashelfer (talk) 11:48, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

These are implemented as SMW queries, and we're a bit limited by the features they provide for queries. I do not believe that we could have labelled headings, so no "Unlock" header followed by "Lock" header.

What we could do is sort by the Use Type (probably). If we sort things in reverse-alphabetic order, then we'll get all the Unlocks first, followed by Text uses, followed by Locks, followed by Formulae. That's not bad. Personally I would have preferred Locks second after the Unlocks... the hackiest way to achieve that is if someone thinks of a synonym for "Text" that starts with a letter before L.

It's also comparatively easy to reformat the summary line. There's kind of a lot of info packed into that line, and I'm not the best with either UX or CSS so I'm quite open to suggested improvements.

- PSGarak (talk) 15:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

a synonym for "Text" that starts with a letter before L.

The term used by FBG is quality variable descriptions (QVDs), which I'd consider a serviceable substitute. TFF (talk) 16:45, 8 November 2022 (UTC)