Suggest that they define knowledge

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From: Propose a Pertinent Point

To reach a conclusion, they must establish what they seek to know. But first, they must understand what it even is to know. What is knowledge?

Challenge information

Broad, Persuasive 230

  • 158 - very chancy (41%)
  • 196 - chancy (51%)
  • 234 - modest (61%)
  • 273 - very modest (71%)
  • 311 - low-risk (81%)
  • 349 - straightforward (91%)
  • 384 - straightforward (100%)


Arrogance, thwarted

"[…]We have already given this ample thought. Knowledge is 'justified true belief' […]"

[…] Suppose […] that the spider has entered a room where it seems to see you. […] the spider has seen is only a life-sized model of your good self. […] clearly it wasn't knowledge.[…]

Description summary:
Your suggestion is folly, but an elderly scholar is baited into attempting it regardless. Its limited definition is easily demolished by a simple thought experiment.

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[…] "You offer a distraction. Knowledge as a concept is sufficiently intangible to make it impossible to define as a singular notion."

Can a spider smirk? This one certainly conveys smugness. […]

Did it actually win a point by refusing to answer?

Description summary:
It did, and the symposium moves on swiftly.

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