Suggest that thought shapes language

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From: Propose a Pertinent Point

Not, as some spiders here have proposed, the inverse. Language is a tool of the mind; it is not the mind itself.

Challenge information

Broad, Persuasive 50

  • 35 - very chancy (42%)
  • 43 - chancy (51%)
  • 51 - modest (61%)
  • 60 - very modest (72%)
  • 68 - low-risk (81%)
  • 76 - straightforward (91%)
  • 84 - straightforward (100%)


As a great poet said...

"What's in a name? […]" […]

[…] several opposing arachnids hiss their disapproval of what they consider a tired point, and an exhausted quotation. However, though the phrase may be hackneyed, they must not dismiss the point on that basis. […]

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Rare Success

As a great poet said...

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet!"[…]

The spider symposium is split […] while names are powerful, they cannot transform reality. Language is a tool for comprehension and communication, nothing more.

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Mistaking a poet for more?

Those spiders you support fall silent. The rest of the Symposium hisses in disdain. […]

[…] "I challenge you to prove that you'd still enjoy the scent if it were called the 'stinkweed' or 'corpse flower'. I suspect the plant would lose its lustre."

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