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From: Debating Matters of Business with the Board


He is extremely passionate about all topics and can and indeed will hold up meetings for hours holding forth on them.

Game Instructions: He is affected by obfuscation. Other branches in this story may help to confuse him.

Unlocked with Board Member: September

Locked with September's Vote


Challenge information

Broad, Persuasive 100

  • 69 - very chancy (41%)
  • 85 - chancy (51%)
  • 102 - modest (61%)
  • 119 - very modest (71%)
  • 135 - low-risk (81%)
  • 152 - straightforward (91%)
  • 167 - straightforward (100%)

Base difficulty is 100, increased by 40 per point of Board against Revolutionary Interests and 20 per point of Board for the Fingerkings, Board against the University and Board against the Liberation of Night. Each point of Obfuscation of the Board reduces the difficulty by 40. Also each point of Board against the Bazaar reduces the difficulty by presumably 20 points.

QuestionBase Difficulty
7 - Recommending a Route across a Ravine0
9 - Recommending a Route through Wasteland100
10 - Proposing the Removal of His Amused Lordship100
11 - Proposing the Removal of the Efficient Commissioner0?
12 - Proposing the Removal of the Jovial Contrarian100
13 - Proposing the Removal of Sinning Jenny100
14 - Proposing the Removal of Feducci100
15 - Proposing the Removal of Virginia100
16 - Proposing the Removal of Furnace Ancona500
17 - Proposing the Removal of the Dean of Xenotheology240
18 - Proposing the Removal of the Bishop of Saint Fiacre's0?
19 - Proposing the Removal of the Bishop of Southwark100
20 - Proposing the Removal of the Tentacled Entrepreneur100
21 - Proposing the Removal of the Gracious Widow100
22 - Proposing the Removal of April500
23 - Proposing the Removal of the Wandering Gondolier100
26 - Proposing the Removal of the Viscountess of the Viric Jungle200
27 - Proposing the Removal of the Rubbery Yes-Man100
28 - Proposing the Removal of the Hell-Scarred Gondolier300
29 - Proposing the Removal of Cornelius, the Bandaged Prehistoricist100
30 - Proposing the Removal of January480
31 - Proposing the Removal of the Wry Functionary100
32 - Proposing the Removal of the Delightful Reverend100
33 - Proposing the Removal of the Drummer100
35 - Proposing the Removal of the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner100
37 - Proposing the Removal of the Implacable Detective100
100 - Proposing a Station Plan100
105 - Proposing a Station Plan more like a Fortress240
115 - Proposing a Station Plan styled in the Manner of Hell100
120 - Proposing a Station Plan that Honours the Bazaar500
130 - Proposing a Station Plan that Speaks to the Glory of London and the Empress380
140 - Proposing a Station Plan Suited to Wasteland100
150 - Proposing a Station Plan Suited to a Surface Summer0
160 - Proposing an ice-resistant route and a well-insulated station100
170 - Proposing the connection to the final station at Marigold100
181 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near Ealing Gardens100
182 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near the Magistracy of the Evenlode100
183 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near Balmoral100
184 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near Station VIII700
185 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near Burrow-infra-Mump100
186 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City somewhere between Moulin and Hurlers, as no one sensible wants that land at all100
187 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near Marigold Station, under the walls of Hell100
200 - Recommending Better Defences for Each Train300
205 - Recommending More Baggage Accommodations for Each Train0
210 - Recommending More Luxurious Fittings for Each Train300
330 - Proposing a Charter declaring an Alliance with Hell100
400 - Proposing to Pay Dividends to Shareholders100
520 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell100
521 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following Feducci's Guidance0
522 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following April's Guidance100
523 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following Virginia's Guidance100
525 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following the Bishop of Southwark's Guidance100
526 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following His Amused Lordship's Guidance400
527 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following the Wandering Gondolier's Guidance100
528 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following Cornelius' Guidance100
529 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following the Viscountess' Guidance100
700 - Proposing that the Unyielding Highlander become Castellan of Balmoral400
710 - Proposing that September become Castellan of Balmoral100
720 - Proposing that the Fervent Widow become Castellan of Balmoral100
800 - Proposing a tracklayer aligned with Mr Fires500
850 - Proposing Cornelius to lead0
905 - Proposing the Dean of Xenotheology as Patron of the Burrow Church100
910 - Proposing the Bishop of St Fiacre's as Patron of the Burrow Church100
931 - Resuming Normal Operations with Furnace in Charge100
932 - Supporting Cornelius' Prehistoricist Building Approach100
933 - Supporting a Brightly-Lit Building Approach340
934 - Proposing a Package of Measures to Resume Normal Operations100
940 - Proposing special consideration to certain charitable groups0
941 - Proposing a dividend be paid out to the poor of the Hinterlands0
1000 - Proposing an expensive tribute to the Hillchanger Tower0
1010 - Proposing an inhuman tribute to the Hillchanger Tower0
1030 - Proposing a legalistic tribute to the Hillchanger Tower0
1100 - Proposing to send your train to war in Parabola
(Cats, FKs, Gent, Visc., Other)
0 (Cats, Visc.)
40 (FKs, Gent)
0 (Other)
1110 - Proposing to build a spur line into Parabola so that you can send in a war-train0
1200 - Proposing a final extension of track520

Success

He is convinced!

"Aye! Aye and aye again." September is emphatic. Other boardmembers wince.

Description summary:
The text varies with the Question before the Board. The text above is the generic result[1]; questions with more specific results are listed below.

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  1. Used for questions 7, 9 - 11, 320, 520 - 523, 525 - 529, 800, 850, 931, 934, 941
QuestionSuccess Description
12 - 21, 26 - 33, 35, 37September nods solemnly. "Such a shame, but has tae be done." He doesn't seem that sorry.
20, 230, 320"Aye! Aye and aye again." September is emphatic. Other boardmembers wince.
22September sighs. "Ach well. She's a bonny lass—" Is she? "Well, no. But 'tis your decision. And we do live in an imperfect world."
23"Shame," September says, "I'll miss 'im for sure. But the lad could stand to be a wee bit less green." He smiles suddenly. "Ah've taken th' liberty o' drawing him up a reading list for while he's away."
100, 105, 115 - 150, 170"Revolution is th' engine o' victory," September says. This appears to be assent.
160"Why's it so cold this close tae Hell?", wonders September. "Not that I mind, but migh' be a bit nippy for th' English."
181 - 187"Aye," says September, enthusiastically. "An' let's have a ruddy guid feast when it's built, an 'aw."
200 - 210"Can ne'er be too prepared. I'd recommend more cannon if it were me. Just fir th' look of 'th thing."
300September wrinkles his nose. "Bit Masterish if you ask me. Mebbe if it's not too ostentatious. A plaque?"
310September shrugs. "If we must make do with 'charity' so be it. So long as ye dinnae think it's a true salve for the conscience."
330"Well, we was always going to end up in one place," September says, resigned.
340"Tis the opiate of the people y'ken," September says admonishingly, "But 'tis your railway. If ye wanna stuff it full o' vicars that's your business."
400Sensing the mood of the Board, September relents. "I'm keeping a careful eye on you though," he says. "I'll be donatin' my share to the workers. After they've been to once o' my lectures first, o' course."
700, 720September looks very grudging indeed, but you've brought so much pressure to bear that he cannot refuse. "I will nae be stepping down from the Board, though, mind."
710"Aye!" September's approval is ringing, if not surprising.
905"She's a smart lass, I trust she can handle th' extra responsibility," September says. The Dean seems taken aback by the vote of confidence.
910"As a Scot I can confidently say no good comes from upsettin' churchmen," September says. The Bishop frowns.
932"Bit of a mad idea, that," September says. "I canne say no to it."
933"I s'pose the auld castle will look grand in the new lights," September muses.
940"Aye, I s'pose there's nae harm in it." September votes yes.
1000 - 1010, 1030"Aye, I s'pose," says September. "It's one in the eye to the Bazaar."
1100 - 1110"Do yeh really need tae ask my opinion on this one?" September asks, a wild gleam in his green eyes. His fingers twitch, eager for the fray.
1200"The more cities that bask in the moonlight, the better," says September. Which seems to be an aye vote.

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Failure

Unconvinced

"Certainly not," says September. "It would be a betrayal of my ideals." He begins to enumerate all of them until you are forced to cut him off and talk to somebody else.

Description summary:
The text varies with the Question before the Board. The text above is the generic result[1]; questions with more specific results are listed below.

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  1. Used for questions 26, 28 - 33, 35, 37, 105, 115, 120, 140, 160, 170, 200 & 210
QuestionFailure Description
9, 100, 230, 300 - 320, 340, 800"Nay, that doesn't seem the wise course," objects September.
10"No point changing trains in a stream," September says, "No revolution's ever been won by offing th' leadership in the middle o' it."
12"Ye cannae do that," September says, "Because he's." He stops and stares at the Contrarian who smiles invitingly. "He's um. One of my very very good friends."
13"Ye cannae do that," September says, "It's oor Jenny!" He crosses his arms, indignant.
14 - 17, 19 - 21September grimaces. "Look, I've been in enough revolutionary councils tae know that once ye start shuffling personnel there's never an end to it."
22"Ye cannae do that," September says, "She's very important." He looks over at April to ensure she's noticed his show of support. She shrugs.
23"Ye cannae do that," September says, "You'll break the puir lad's heart." He gives the Gondolier an encouraging smile from across the table. The Gondolier flushes.
130"An English station?" repeats September, scandalised. "Doesn't the Empress have enough already?"
181"Naw," says September. "Too close tae London. Won't work."
182"Nayw" says September. "This close to tae the polis? Madness."
183"Dinnae mind having them for neighbours," says September. "But yer plan seems a wee bit half-baked tae me."
184"Nay, nay, nay," says September. "What're ye tryin' tae do with this idea?"
185 - 187"Naw," says September. "Not th' worst location, but yer plan seems more'n a bit half-baked tae me."
520, 522, 523, 525 - 529"Nay." […] a friend of his who wandered onto an old battlefield and came back wild from an encounter with the spirits of the dead […]

"And Pages," he says. "They say it has a taste for the land round Moulin, or the exports that come back from there." […]

700"Him?" demands September. "There are much more qualified candidates! Myself, for instance!"
720"Her?" demands September. "There are much more qualified candidates! Myself, for instance!"
905, 910"We shouldnae be encouragin' divided loyalties. Nor makin' this new church a put for money an' other evils."
932In a rare moment of self-awareness, September says he "dinnae ken enough about th' Chain to support letting the auld man tinker with it."
933, 934"That sounds like a trick ye mean to play on the workers," September says. "Sounds downright Masterish, this."
1100"I dinnae think we should be antagonising th' various powers that be out there." September says, reflectively. "We might need 'em one day! If my colleagues have their way and all th' lights go oot, we'll need something to bright th' dark still."
1200"Ye wouldn't mind London becoming more like them, but then, there's the risk they'll become more like London," says September. "All in all, I'd say nay."

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