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From: Debating Matters of Business with the Board

What does she know about this question? What does she know that she hasn't spoken of?

Unlocked with Board Member: The Implacable Detective

Locked with The Implacable Detective's Vote

Challenge information

Broad, Persuasive 100

  • 69 - very chancy (41%)
  • 85 - chancy (51%)
  • 102 - modest (61%)
  • 119 - very modest (71%)
  • 135 - low-risk (81%)
  • 152 - straightforward (91%)
  • 167 - straightforward (100%)

Base difficulty is 100, increased by 40 points per Board against the Constables, and 20 points per Board against Own Financial Interests, Board against the University, and Board against Preservation. Each point of Board against Criminals reduces it by 20 points.

QuestionBase Difficulty
1 - Recommending a Route through Occupied Buildings240
2 - Proposing the Demolition of Unused Houses100
3 - Recommending a Route over Marshland100
4 - Recommending a Route through Plainsland100
5 - Route through Hills100
7 - Recommending a Route across a Ravine240
9 - Recommending a Route through Wasteland100
10 - Proposing the Removal of His Amused Lordship100
11 - Proposing the Removal of the Efficient Commissioner100
12 - Proposing the Removal of the Jovial Contrarian100
13 - Proposing the Removal of Sinning Jenny100
14 - Proposing the Removal of Feducci100
15 - Proposing the Removal of Virginia100
16 - Proposing the Removal of Furnace Ancona100
17 - Proposing the Removal of the Dean of Xenotheology240
18 - Proposing the Removal of the Bishop of Saint Fiacre's100
19 - Proposing the Removal of the Bishop of Southwark100
20 - Proposing the Removal of the Tentacled Entrepreneur100
21 - Proposing the Removal of the Gracious Widow0
22 - Proposing the Removal of April100
23 - Proposing the Removal of the Wandering Gondolier100
24 - Proposing the Removal of September200
26 - Proposing the Removal of the Viscountess of the Viric Jungle100
27 - Proposing the Removal of the Rubbery Yes-Man100
28 - Proposing the Removal of the Hell-Scarred Gondolier100
29 - Proposing the Removal of Cornelius, the Bandaged Prehistoricist300
30 - Proposing the Removal of January200
31 - Proposing the Removal of the Wry Functionary100
32 - Proposing the Removal of the Delightful Reverend100
33 - Proposing the Removal of the Drummer100
35 - Proposing the Removal of the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner220
100 - Proposing a Station Plan100
105 - Proposing a Station Plan more like a Fortress380
115 - Proposing a Station Plan styled in the Manner of Hell100
120 - Proposing a Station Plan that Honours the Bazaar100
130 - Proposing a Station Plan that Speaks to the Glory of London and the Empress0
140 - Proposing a Station Plan Suited to Wasteland100
150 - Proposing a Station Plan Suited to a Surface Summer100
160 - Proposing an ice-resistant route and a well-insulated station100
170 - Proposing the connection to the final station at Marigold100
181 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near Ealing Gardens100
182 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near the Magistracy of the Evenlode0
183 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near Balmoral380
184 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near Station VIII100
185 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near Burrow-infra-Mump100
186 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City somewhere between Moulin and Hurlers, as no one sensible wants that land at all100
187 - Proposing a Tracklayers' City near Marigold Station, under the walls of Hell100
200 - Recommending Better Defences for Each Train60 × Train Defences
205 - Recommending More Baggage Accommodations for Each Train100 + (60 × Train Baggage Accommodations)
210 - Recommending More Luxurious Fittings for Each Train100 + (60 × Train Luxuries)
220 - Recommending More Worker Compensation200
230 - Recommending Worker Co-ownership100
240 - Recommending the Strike be Broken100
250 - Requesting Funds to Excavate the Remains of a Prehistoric Creature160 or 220
260 - Suggesting the Union Pave Over a Prehistoric Creature500
270 - Requesting Funds to Route Around an Anomalous Section of London260
280 - Proposing to Drive the Track through the Zone100
340 - Proposing a Charter engaging in the Work of the Church160
400 - Proposing to Pay Dividends to Shareholders200 + (20 × In Corporate Debt)
500 - Proposing a Bypass through Parabola100
510 - Proposing the Rental of Hellworms200
520 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell100
521 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following Feducci's Guidance100
522 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following April's Guidance500
523 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following Virginia's Guidance100
525 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following the Bishop of Southwark's Guidance100
526 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following His Amused Lordship's Guidance100
527 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following the Wandering Gondolier's Guidance100
528 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following Cornelius' Guidance240
529 - Proposing to Venture into the Former Battlefields Around Hell, following the Viscountess' Guidance0
700 - Proposing that the Unyielding Highlander become Castellan of Balmoral100
710 - Proposing that September become Castellan of Balmoral100
720 - Proposing that the Fervent Widow become Castellan of Balmoral100
800 - Proposing a tracklayer aligned with Mr Fires500
850 - Proposing Cornelius to lead300
905 - Proposing the Dean of Xenotheology as Patron of the Burrow Church100
910 - Proposing the Bishop of St Fiacre's as Patron of the Burrow Church300
931 - Resuming Normal Operations with Furnace in Charge260
932 - Supporting Cornelius' Prehistoricist Building Approach260
933 - Supporting a Brightly-Lit Building Approach220
934 - Proposing a Package of Measures to Resume Normal Operations180
940 - Proposing special consideration to certain charitable groups260 or 300
941 - Proposing a dividend be paid out to the poor of the Hinterlands260 or 300
1000 - Proposing an expensive tribute to the Hillchanger Tower260
1010 - Proposing an inhuman tribute to the Hillchanger Tower100
1020 - Proposing a calendrical tribute to the Hillchanger Tower380
1100 - Proposing to send your train to war in Parabola
(Cats, FKs, Gent, Visc., Other)
1110 - Proposing to build a spur line into Parabola so that you can send in a war-train100


She is convinced!

The Implacable Detective simply nods.

Description summary:
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  1. Used for questions 3 - 5, 17 - 20, 28 - 29, 31, 32, 35, 100, 105, 115 - 150, 170, 181 - 187, 200 - 240, 260 - 280, 300 - 320, 340, 400, 520 - 523, 525 - 529
QuestionSuccess Description
1, 2"No doubt these choices will become easier once we're outside of London itself," observes the Detective.
7"There is something heartening about a rugged landscape," says the Implacable Detective. She remarks that she's always wished to travel more herself.
9"It sounds dangerous," says the Implacable Detective. This is not a no.
10"I suppose," says the Implacable Detective. "We can invite him back if we change our minds."
11The Efficient Commissioner is opposed to a lot of our essential business. It would be much more straightforward to have a license or permit structure: we buy a permit to build west, the Bazaar leaves us alone to do it."
12"How does it work, voting him off the board? If I vote for him to stay, would that make him go?"
13"I don't question her own activities," says the Implacable Detective. "Not much. But the company she keeps sets a very bad example for London."
14"Good, get him out of here," says the Implacable Detective. "I've never found him even slightly tolerable." This is an old grudge, from when Feducci became mayor and the Implacable Detective only won increasing obscurity.
15"She has outlived her usefulness on the board, and I am not at all sure she's been open with us concerning her actual relationship with Hell. In addition to which, her choice of hats makes her look fast."
16"I have already solved her mystery," says the Implacable Detective. "So if it's useful to let her go, we can. I won't be suffering from the lack of an explanation."
21"The Gracious Widow's only interest in the GHR is in how she can turn it towards her own criminal enterprises," […] "I can't imagine why she was invited in the first place. It is not as though her affiliations are a well-kept secret."
22"I suspect my colleague of Revolutionary affiliations, and the GHR would not want to be associated with such a thing if she's ever caught in the midst of bombing an embassy. Consider the message that would send."
23, 27"He isn't causing trouble, but he isn't doing much good either," says the Implacable Detective.
24"He openly goes by the name September," says the Implacable Detective. "At least, he would do if his accent didn't qualify as a cipher on its own. There's no mystery about where his loyalties lie."
26"She might be better employed on the other side of the mirror," says the Implacable Detective. There was, it seems, a spat between the two of them, and the Detective found a dead bat in her handbag, which she has not yet been able to forgive.
30"She has been something of a liability all the way back to her Benthic days," says the Implacable Detective. "It was the reason they had to be rid of her, in the end."
33"It is not a very comfortable fellow board member," admits the Implacable Detective. "When you know what it means – which isn't always – you usually regret knowing."
160The Implacable Detective raises one eyebrow implausibly high – does she know something about the Hurlers that she's not letting on? – but supports the motion.
250The Implacable Detective sits forward and speaks eagerly of the scientific opportunity. There has always been a streak of the Benthic in her.
500The Implacable Detective […] has been inclined for many years to regard Parabola as a somewhat fanciful invention on the edge of truth. Once persuaded, however, she agrees the approach would open many startling opportunities to the GHR.
510"[…] But do the Hellworms give rides? Can they be studied? Is there anything else we should do with them besides dig tunnels […]? It seems a shame to make such an investment in the esoteric without deriving the maximum information from the process."
700 - 720"I have done some background investigation of my own," says the Implacable Detective, unapologetic. "I found nothing that would absolutely preclude the appointment."
800"He does not strike me as the kind of person with many deep strategic thoughts about matters of business," she says. "But I suppose he won't do too much harm, either."
850"Very well," says the Implacable Detective, with a slightly unnerving smile. "I look forward to seeing what results."
905The Implacable Detective shrugs. "I don't suppose the board will suffer too much from the second claim on her attention."
910The Implacable Detective shrugs. "I don't suppose the board will suffer too much from the second claim on his attention."
931"Agreed," says the Implacable Detective. "We should never have allowed things to get so out of hand in the first place."
932"I confess I am curious to see the consequences of this exceptionally foolish and improbable experiment," says the Implacable Detective. "Who knows! Perhaps it will be unexpectedly effective."
933"I favour anything that discourages the criminal element in the Neath," says the Implacable Detective. "Let's keep the Hinterlands visible."
934"We might as well," says the Implacable Detective. "The alternatives don't impress me."
940"With significant reservations," says the Implacable Detective. "But I have been brought to believe there might be some positive consequences in this case."
941"I question disbursing such funds indiscriminately," says the Implacable Detective. "But it might improve the popular perception of the GHR."
1000 - 1020"An eminently practical solution," says the Implacable Detective.
1100 - 1110"If you feel that strongly about the battle," says the Implacable Detective, "then it makes sense to mobilise all of the available forces."
1200"At the moment, the city represents a safe haven for the criminal element," says the Implacable Detective. "We may improve matters if there are links with the Magistracy and with London itself."

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The Implacable Detective shakes her head firmly.

Description summary:
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  1. Used for questions 1 - 5, 7, 160, 170, 181, 183 - 187, 250 - 280, 300 - 320, 340, 400, 500, 510, 520 - 523, 525 - 528, 700 - 720, 905, 910, 931, 932
QuestionFailure Description
9"It isn't the kind of territory you'd want to walk through, let alone try to put a train over," warns the Detective.
10"His Amused Lordship is a less frivolous person than he might seem," says the Implacable Detective. "I'd rather not lose his influence from the board. And, to be blunt, his fortune may sometimes be an advantage to us."
11"I'd rather keep her. Those of us who have been here since the Fall ought to stick together."
12"One thing you can say for those who've run for Mayor: the public has already had a chance to discover their secrets."
13"Some of her activities are questionable," the Implacable Detective agrees. "But she is not primarily a criminal, and she has done some good."
14"Feducci has contacts and connections in many places beyond London," says the Implacable Detective. "That may prove a larger asset than we realise, when we're dealing with the powers of the Hinterlands."
15"If it weren't for Virginia, we wouldn't have this railway in the first place."
16"I admire a person who will roll up their sleeves and get to work," says the Implacable Detective. "And as far as I can see, that's Furnace."
17"The Dean has done some very respected research on unusual topics," says the Implacable Detective. "Matters that become more relevant the further we go into the Hinterlands."
18, 19"The Bishop is a person of substance," says the Implacable Detective. "You may take it from me; I've looked into his background."
20"The Entrepreneur's financial backing has been of significant use to the board. He deserves his place here, and I see no reason to send him away."
22"Assuming we don't fear her bombing Moloch Street, yes," says the Implacable Detective. She doesn't sound as though she's joking about the risks.
23"Oh, let him stay. We were all young once, and maybe it will teach him something. Besides, he gave up adventuring to Hell in order to do this."
24"[…] I assume, considering his loyalties and his unfitness for a business venture, that there must have been some truly compelling reason to involve him. And since I do not know what […] I also do not know whether the necessity has been resolved."
26"Someone with her official affiliations brings prestige to the board, and allows us to fundraise more effectively," says the Implacable Detective.
28"I find his predictions interesting, […] I wish he knew more about the Elder Continent as well. I wonder how he would choose to describe it... perhaps we should […] send him there? No, a foolish idea. Still, let's not throw him off the board."
29"Furnace aside, he seems to have the greatest sway with the tracklayers. He's a useful point of contact. I do wonder whether he's really so scarred as all that, under the bandages – but it isn't polite to pry, of course."
30"Do you know who she was, before she had to leave Benthic?" asks the Implacable Detective. "Have you not heard of her studies – both scientific and mystical?"
31"The Wry Functionary is party to secrets even I don't know," says the Implacable Detective. "His position within the Shuttered Palace means that he hears everything."
32, 33"I disagree with removing any board members who make the meetings substantially more interesting," she says.
35"The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner and I have never cooperated as successfully as one might hope," says the Implacable Detective.
100"I'm no judge of architecture," says the Implacable Detective. "I can't say I care for it, though."
105The Implacable Detective frowns at the drawing. "It looks like it's drawn up for a Surface war, and not the kinds of creatures you might find down here."
115"Can't imagine the Church would approve of us putting up something like that. And it looks hard to police, too. Lots of concealed spots for pickpockets and that sort of thing."
120"That'll be expensive," she remarks, paging through the drawings. "Impressive, I can't question that. But do we want to spend that much?"
140, 150"I'm no judge of architecture, but the drawings look a bit foolish to me."
200"I wonder whether speed might be more to the point than armour?" muses the Implacable Detective. "A sufficiently fast train becomes a weapon in itself, of course."
205"I don't believe this recommendation was made in the spirit of a law-abiding citizen," […] "I naturally have no objection to the passengers bringing along any small personal articles, but that does not appear to me to be the true point of the proposal."
210"It is an expensive innovation, and I am uncertain it will pay for itself. Are we sure that very many persons of high social standing and heavy purses are inclined to buy tickets? Have we conducted an inquiry, or engaged any advertising?"
220"No one wants the workers to starve, of course," […] "On the other hand, an unreasonably large payment for services rendered would likely result in other labour difficulties – unrest in London, workers competing to gain entry to the Union […]"
230"Is that entirely necessary?" she asks. "It's a very extreme solution, and the investors put a good bit into this business. You wouldn't want to discourage them investing again."
240"It is an unnecessarily harsh and unjustified solution," says the Implacable Detective firmly.
800"Was there really no one more suitable?" […] "If not, I am frankly disappointed in Furnace Ancona's management. I would have expected her to put more care into the development of additional leaders. Did she think she would live forever?"
850"It will be particularly amusing if Furnace returns and objects," says the Implacable Detective. "I believe I would enjoy being a spider on the wall, when that happens."
933 - 934"I appreciate the aim, but I am not sure about the costs."
940"By 'charity', in this case, we apparently mean to denote 'smuggling'," says the Implacable Detective crisply. "I have no intention to lend the GHR's good name to such a thing."
941"Surely we have better uses for our wealth."
1000 - 1020"We don't know enough about the Tower to be making such promises," she says. "Almost all situations would benefit from more study."
1100 - 1110"The train was expensive," she says pointedly. "Do you want to send it where a single bad encounter could turn it all into a giant pot of treacle?"
1200"It's a den of criminals," says the Implacable Detective. "And the less we have to do with it, the better."

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