Deeper Discordant Studies (Guide)

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Deepening Your Discordant Studies

Hint 1

First you will need to consult with someone who knows more about the Discordance.

Hint 2

This is someone that you have talked to before at The Hurlers. Make sure to bring some knowledge.

Answer

Approach the Steward at The Adulterine Ruins to Unlock deeper Discordant Studies and Reflect upon a Memory of Discordance. You will need 1 x Memory of Discordance

What Next?

Hint 1

The stewardess should have another topic now that should give you a hint on how to proceed.

Hint 2

You'll need to enter the Adulterine Castle multiple times through the same method as you first entered.

Answer

Makes sure that the Number That's Not In Your Head aligns with your current nightmares value. You can always raise your nightmares out On the Ice with Close your eyes . Then you should be able to Open your eyes and enter the castle, unlocking a seal.

What to do with what you found?

Hint 1

You should find something new in the Castle now.

Hint 2

You may have to move up or down in order to find it.

Answer

The seal is a storylet with a specific sacrifice and a difficult challenge. Completing it will open the seal, setting the seal's value to two.

From There?

Hint 1

Consider the seal number you found and what it might imply.

Hint 2

What values are possible when you miscount the stones? What values are possible with nightmares?

Answer

You'll want to miscount the stones for each of the seals 2-8 and then open the seal in the castle.

But What About...?

Hint 1

Have you unlocked all seals available to you? Surely there are more.

Hint 2

When you've learned enough, someone in the castle might have the answer.

Answer

Unlocking all of the upper seals (5-8) will grant a Memory of an Anchorhold which you can then use when you Approach the Anchoress to Meditate upon the Lower Principles and set the miscounting of the 2nd stone to 0. That will allow you to get the 1st seal.

Is there More?

Hint 1

Think about how you acquired the first seal.

Hint 2

When you've opened the first seal, someone in the castle might have the answer.

Answer

Unlocking all of the lower seals (1-4) will grant a Memory of an Anchorhold which you can then use when you Approach the Anchoress to Meditate upon the Upper Principles and set the miscounting of the 1st stone to 0. That will allow you to get the final seal. It is already open when you Open your eyes.

And Then?

Congratulations! You've finished all there is to become a full fledged Steward of the Discordance. Still should you ever want to go back to replay any of the seals, you can do so.

A List

A Table of all the Things

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Completing a check will lose you 1 level of the associated Advanced Skill or -100 CP of Main Skill.

Seal	Action	Cost	Check	Rewards	Moved To
8th	Cut an Impossible Theorem apart	1 x Impossible Theorem	300 300	8 x Parabolan Research 1 x Immaterial Material Wounds Reset Nightmares +8CP 1 x Memory of an Anchorhold	The Mirror-Marches
7th	Deliver a Discordant Missive	1 x Discordant Missive	8	7 x Parabolan Research 4 x Basket of Rubbery Pies 1 x Unaccountably Peckish Suspicion +2CP 1 x Memory of an Anchorhold	New Newgate Prison - again!
6th	Unmake a Solacefruit Champagne Sorbet	1 x Solacefruit Champagne Sorbet	8	8 x Parabolan Research 3 x Dark-Dewed Cherry 1 x Broken Giant 1 x Fillip of Effervescence 1 x Crystallised Euphoria 5 x Solacefruit 1 x Memory of an Anchorhold	Station VIII
5th	Experiment with a Discordant Soul	1 x Discordant Soul	8	5 x Parabolan Research 111 x Brilliant Soul 555 x Soul 1 x Memory of an Anchorhold	Your Lodgings
4th	Listen closely to a Night-Whisper	1 x Night-Whisper	8	4 x Parabolan Research 9 x Aeolian Scream 9 x Sworn Statement 9 x Dubious Testimony 9 x Scrap of Incendiary Gossip 9 x Tale of Terror!! 9 x Appalling Secret 9 x Cryptic Clue 9 x Primordial Shriek 9 x Carnival Ticket 1 x Memory of an Anchorhold	Mrs Plenty's Carnival
3rd	Converse with a Doubled Skull	1 x Doubled Skull	8	3 x Parabolan Research 66 x Bone Fragments 19 x Volume of Collated Research 1 x Horned Skull 1 x Memory of an Anchorhold	The University
2nd	Cloud your vision with Queenly Attar	1 x A Vial of Queenly Attar	8	2 x Parabolan Research 1 x Horned Skull 1 x Memory of an Anchorhold	Arbor, of the Roses
1st	Exhale a Breath of the Void	1 x Breath of the Void	300 300	1 x Parabolan Research 1 x scream that's not stuck in your throat like a stone 1 x Memory of an Anchorhold	Watchmaker's Hill

Analysis

Analysis of Things

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This is analysis of the seals, or at least of ones that you might want to repeat in the future. All of them are good for lowering skills if that is required, but some of them are also beneficial, either by providing rare items or by simply being a good source of income.

The Eighth Seal

The Eight Seal will allow you to get the Immaterial Material which can be used for a new future in Irem or to get a Veils-Velvet Scrap. It is the only easy way to get the latter, for which otherwise you must donate a very many Certifiable Scrap to the proper relicker.

The Seventh Seal

The Seventh Seal is notable because it moves you to New Newgate Prison - again! without increasing your criminal record. This is much easier to achieve than failing to Rob the Brass Embassy.

The Fifth Seal

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What needs work: EPA needs reanalysis after spider-pope nerf

When combined with Rip out the words in the Cave of the Nadir, it is a very profitable grind, albeit one at the cost of Glasswork. The best way to do this is to save up a bulk of Discordant Souls and then, using a lot of glasswork equipment cash them out. The efficiency is somewhere between 6.63 and 11.40 EPA.

The First Seal

The First seal is the only way to get scream that's not stuck in your throat like a stone which may be of interest if you are collecting all of the T8 items. As this has been consumed in getting the Nonexistent Seal you would need to do it again if you wished to have one.